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How talk­ing to Putin has split the west

Is it worth talk­ing to Vladi­mir Putin?

The Rus­sian pres­id­ent has a long his­tory of string­ing west­ern lead­ers along. George W Bush claimed to have looked the man in the eye and found him “very straight­for­ward and trust­worthy”. Angela Merkel of Ger­many and François Hol­lande of France engaged in pro­longed and fruit­less dip­lomacy with Putin after his annex­a­tion of Crimea in 2014. Steve Witkoff, the Don­ald Trump admin­is­tra­tion’s emis­sary, recently took naiv­ety to new levels by call­ing Putin a “human­it­arian”. The fol­low­ing morn­ing, a Rus­sian mis­sile attack on Dnipro rail­way sta­tion in Ukraine killed 15 civil­ians.

Non­ethe­less, talks with Putin’s Rus­sia con­tinue. The Rus­si­ans, Ukrain­i­ans and Amer­ic­ans are due to meet soon in Abu Dhabi (or else­where, if war inter­venes) for peace nego­ti­ations. Against this back­drop, three dif­fer­ent west­ern approaches to Putin have emerged.

The first is spear­headed by Witkoff and Jared Kush­ner, Trump’s son-in-law. They are focused on get­ting Ukraine to cede fur­ther ter­rit­ory and, on the US side, mak­ing busi­ness deals with Rus­sia.

The second approach is cham­pioned by Pres­id­ent Alex­an­der Stubb of Fin­land and Jonas Gahr Støre, the prime min­is­ter of Nor­way. These two lead­ers are firm back­ers of Ukraine — but think Europeans have to talk dir­ectly to Rus­sia. They held a 90-minute phone call with Putin last week.

The third view is that talk­ing to Putin is counter-pro­duct­ive. That view is pop­u­lar in the Baltic states and Poland.

For many months, Witkoff and Kush­ner have dom­in­ated the dia­logue. Their sug­ges­tion that Ukraine should cede ter­rit­ory it cur­rently holds to secure a peace deal was seen as a betrayal in Kyiv and much of Europe. More recently, they have been push­ing the idea of post­war busi­ness deals between the US and Rus­sia. In much of Europe, the Witkoff-Kush­ner emphasis on put­ting busi­ness at the centre of a peace deal with Rus­sia is regarded as naive at best — and cor­rupt at worst.

Stubb and Støre are in close con­tact with Witkoff and Kush­ner. But they also think it is a bad idea for both Europe and Ukraine to let Wash­ing­ton con­trol the dia­logue with Putin. They want to get Europe “back in the game”.

The Finnish and Nor­we­gian lead­ers con­sul­ted Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the Ukrain­ian pres­id­ent, extens­ively before talk­ing to Putin. They used their con­ver­sa­tion with the Rus­sian leader to con­vey the mes­sage that Zelenskyy is inter­ested in speak­ing dir­ectly to Putin — about ter­rit­ory and about secur­ity guar­an­tees for both Ukraine and Rus­sia. Putin appar­ently said he is will­ing to meet Zelenskyy, but only when it is clear that a final agree­ment is close at hand.

To get nearer to that point, the Rus­sian, Finnish and Nor­we­gian lead­ers also dis­cussed “con­fid­ence-build­ing meas­ures”. These could include par­tial cease­fires focused on pro­tect­ing energy pro­duc­tion and food ship­ments — as well as pris­oner exchanges.

At some point Stubb and Støre envis­age step­ping aside to let Ger­many, France and the UK (plus the EU and pos­sibly Italy) take over the dia­logue with the Krem­lin. But they have already faced a bar­rage of cri­ti­cism from some European col­leagues. Mette Fre­deriksen, the Dan­ish prime min­is­ter, said she was “very scep­tical of the Nor­we­gian and Finnish ini­ti­at­ive” — which she sug­ges­ted would frac­ture European unity and so ease the pres­sure on Rus­sia.

Per­haps unhelp­fully for Stubb and Støre, Putin has defen­ded them by prais­ing “people in Europe who do not want to inflict a stra­tegic defeat on Rus­sia, as some do, but want to estab­lish some kind of con­struct­ive dia­logue”.

The ques­tion of whether a “stra­tegic defeat” for Rus­sia should be Europe’s goal does indeed under­pin the dis­pute between the Stubb and Fre­deriksen camps. For the Dan­ish leader — and those who think like her — the only truly accept­able con­clu­sion to the war is the defeat of Rus­sia and the col­lapse of the Putin regime.

For the Stubb-Støre camp, however, the idea of a “stra­tegic defeat” of Rus­sia is a dan­ger­ous chi­mera. They think it is unlikely to hap­pen and that, even if it did, the res­ults might not be entirely benign. As well as try­ing to end the Ukraine war, they are already think­ing about how to shape a post­war rela­tion­ship between Europe and Rus­sia.

All sides in this intra-west­ern dis­pute over talk­ing to Putin have their blind spots. The Trump admin­is­tra­tion’s pro­fessed belief that Rus­sia can be lured into a peace deal with the prom­ise of eco­nomic bene­fits wil­fully mis­reads what is driv­ing Putin. He did not attack Ukraine for eco­nomic reas­ons and he will not end the war for an oil deal.

But those press­ing for the stra­tegic defeat of Rus­sia cur­rently have no con- vin­cing pic­ture of how this will come about. They also tend to under­play the enorm­ous costs to Ukraine of yet more years of war.

By con­trast, those Europeans who are keen to engage Putin in dia­logue now may be kid­ding them­selves about his real will­ing­ness to nego­ti­ate a peace set- tle­ment. All the signs are that the Rus- sian leader wants to bring Ukraine to its knees over the winter, by seek­ing to des­troy its energy infra­struc­ture and much of Ukrain­ian industry.

As for Putin, he is prey to his own illu- sions. The Rus­sian leader has con­sist- ently over­es­tim­ated Rus­sia’s pro­gress on the bat­tle­field and under­es­tim­ated Ukraine’s resi­li­ence.

Peace in Ukraine would be a won­der- ful thing. But it still seems a long way off.

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